Mazandar

این منبع<ref>''One of the contenders for power was Karim Khan Zand, a member of the kurdish Lak tribe near Shiraz'', William Marsden, Stephen Album, ''Marsden's Numismata orientalia illustrata'', Attic Books, 1977, {{ISBN |978-0-915018-16-1|en}}, [https://books.google.com/books?id=zDtmAAAAMAAJ&q="One+of+the+contenders+for+power+was+Karim+Khan+Zand,+a+member+of+the+Lak+tribe+near+Shiraz,"&dq="One+of+the+contenders+for+power+was+Karim+Khan+Zand,+a+member+of+the+Lak+tribe+near+Shiraz,"&hl=en&ei=vfVKTuL8J6H8mAXfp8TxBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA p. 158.]</ref> و این منبع<ref>Karim Khan, the founder of the Zand dynasty of Persia that succeeded the Afsharids, was himself born to a family of these Lak deportees (of the Zand tribe), [[مهرداد ایزدی]], ''The Kurds: A Concise Handbook'', Taylor & Francis, 1992, ISBN 978-0-8448-1727-9, [https://books.google.com/books?id=I9mr6OgLjBoC&pg=PA12&dq="Karim+Khan,+the+founder+of+the+Zand+dynasty+of+Persia+that+succeeded+the+Afsharids,+was+himself+born+to+a+family+of+these+Lak+deportees+(of+the+Zand+tribe).+"&hl=en&ei=MfdKTpKjO8r9mAXQjtWSCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q="Karim%20Khan,%20the%20founder%20of%20the%20Zand%20dynasty%20of%20Persia%20that%20succeeded%20the%20Afsharids,%20was%20himself%20born%20to%20a%20family%20of%20these%20Lak%20deportees%20(of%20the%20Zand%20tribe).%20"&f=false p. 12.]</ref> در هیچ کدام اسمی از کرد بودن زندیه آورده نشده است اما به این منابع ارجاع شده است. در واقع جعل کرده اند.

این منبع<ref name="p. 308">Lokman I. Meho, Kelly L. Maglaughlin, ''Kurdish Culture and Society: An Annotated Bibliography'', Greenwood Publishing Group, 2001. {{ISBN |978-0-313-31543-5|en}}, [https://books.google.com/books?id=sl4PIeyWriUC&pg=PA308&dq="Karim+Khan+Zand,+the+founder+of+the+Kurdish+Zand+dynasty"&hl=en&ei=QftKTviXOLD2mAWLiPSICA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q="Karim%20Khan%20Zand,%20the%20founder%20of%20the%20Kurdish%20Zand%20dynasty"&f=false p. 308.]</ref> نیز نویسنده آن ( Lokman I. Meho) یک سیاست مدار است و به همین دلیل منبع معتبری برای تاریخ نیست. همچنین نویسنده خود کتاب به جعل منبع پرداخته زیرا از قول جان.ر.پری گفته زندها کرد هستند اما جان.ر.پری در اینجا <ref>''the bulk of the evidence points to their being one of the northern Lur collectively called Lak , who may originally have been of Kurdish origin. '',John R. Perry, ''Karim Khan Zand '', 2012, ISBN 1780741995,[https://books.google.com/books?id=hQfrAQAAQBAJ&lpg=PP1&dq=Karim%20Khan%20Zand&pg=PT24#v=onepage&q&f=false]</ref> زندها را از لرهای شمالی (لکها) دانسته است.

این منبع <ref name="Jwaideh 2006">{{cite book|last=Jwaideh|first=Wadie|title=The Kurdish national movement: its origins and development|year=2006|url=https://books.google.no/books?id=FCbspX-dGPYC&pg=PA17&dq=Karim+KhanZand+Kurdish#v=onepage&q=Karim%20Khan%20Kurdish&f=false}}</ref> و این منبع <ref name="p. 17">''Kurdish leader, Karim Khan Zand,...'', [[Wadie Jwaideh]], ''The Kurdish National Movement: Its Origins and Development'', Syracuse University Press, 2006, {{ISBN |978-0-8156-3093-7|en}}, [https://books.google.com/books?id=FCbspX-dGPYC&pg=PA17&dq="Kurdish+leader,+Karim+Khan+Zand,+who+for+nearly"&hl=en&ei=9flKTu6BGcL-mAW206zxBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q="Kurdish%20leader,%20Karim%20Khan%20Zand,%20who%20for%20nearly"&f=false p. 17.]</ref> نیز یک کاب هستند و نباید دوبار از آن استفاده کرد.

اما یک سوال آیا نوشته David Yeroushalmi <ref>''Muhammad Karim Khan, of the Zand clan of the Lur tribe, suc- ceeded in imposing his authority on parts of the defunct Safavid empire'', David Yeroushalmi, ''The Jews of Iran in The Nineteenth Century: Aspects of History, Community, and Culture'', BRILL, 2009, {{ISBN |978-90-04-15288-5|en}}, [https://books.google.com/books?id=XYlGS3s3zTQC&pg=PR39&dq=%22Muhammad+Karim+Khan,+of+the+Zand+clan+of+the+Lur+tribe,+suc-+ceeded+in+imposing+his+authority+on+parts+of+the+defunct+Safavid+empire%22&hl=en&ei=_gJLTsPHGYPEmAXM_oiPCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22Muhammad%20Karim%20Khan%2C%20of%20the%20Zand%20clan%20of%20the%20Lur%20tribe%2C%20suc-%20ceeded%20in%20imposing%20his%20authority%20on%20parts%20of%20the%20defunct%20Safavid%20empire%22&f=false p. xxxix.]</ref> نا معتبر بود که آنها را حذف کردید؟ در ضمن لر بودن زندها قطعی است به نظرم باید در اول مقاله بر اساس همان منابعی که برای لک بودن زندها ذکر شده، لر بودن آنها نیز ذکر شود [[کاربر:احمد گراوند|احمد گراوند]] ([[بحث کاربر:احمد گراوند|بحث]]) ‏۵ آوریل ۲۰۱۷، ساعت ۰۹:۰۵ (UTC)